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It seems odd that President Obama is willing to apologize for American actions in so many instances, but not for the actual violation of an internationally-recognized border by the United States in the conduct of an espionage operation. An American drone touched down 140 miles inside Iranian territory, and the White House is refusing to apologize for our aerial invasion.

The drone crash is an open and shut case: there is nothing the RQ-170 could have been doing other than collecting intelligence. We have lots of good reasons to be collecting intelligence inside Iran; but our government committed an act of espionage, intruding clandestinely into another country, something that is illegal although widely practiced.

The president looks foolish calling for Iran to return the drone while petulantly refusing to explain our actions that resulted in being caught en flagrante delicto committing espionage. Especially given our outrage a few months ago when the U.S. traced to Iran's Qu'uds force a bungled plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador in Washington.

After China shot down an American spy plane near Hainan Island in 2001, the Bush Administration apologized, saying we were very sorry both for causing the death of a Chinese military pilot that had intercepted our plane, and for entering Chinese airspace. Technically, the letter was "an expression of regret," while claiming we did nothing wrong, but for all practical purposes, we apologized to China.

By not apologizing for what is a clear infraction of an (often compromised) norm of international behavior, President Obama both justifies Iran's attempts to conduct espionage inside the U.S., and makes us look like a brutish superpower that flaunts the rules. So much for a new era of respect for international law and cooperation under President Obama. Senator Obama would surely have cited such behavior by the previous administration as one more demonstration of the arrogance making the U.S. so unpopular in the world.

It may be the drone just wandered off course from Afghanistan or elsewhere and was not intended to be over Iranian airspace. It may be we were plotting grid coordinates to target Iran's nuclear program, which it continues in violation of its commitment in the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty not to pursue weapons and despite numerous United Nations Security Council Resolutions condemning its actions. It may be the drone was collecting radiation emissions from recent activity at know Iranian centrifuge or testing sites in support of the International Atomic and Energy Agency.

The Iranians claim to have used cyberwarfare to down the drone, a claim that is unlikely and that our explanation should also put to rest. Iran ought to be very worried that we can operate with impunity in their airspace; fueling that concern is a useful deterrent given Iranian nuclear and missile programs.

Whatever the explanation is, the president or a senior figure in the administration should actually give the explanation, both to the American people and to the world. Thomas Jefferson was right that "a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them."

The president should apologize. He should also use the explanation as an opportunity to review all the reasons we feel the need to collect intelligence inside Iran: 

  • Iran's unrelenting march to build nuclear weapons; 
  • that Iran is the world's most enthusiastic state sponsor of terrorism, including a recent effort to conduct political killings in America; 
  • support to Hezbollah destabilizing the government of Lebanon; 
  • funding and recruiting Shi'ia militia in Iraq; 
  • assistance to Hamas derailing progress toward peace in Palestine; 
  • the erratic international behavior of Iran's leadership; 
  • degrading repression of its own people;
  • widespread fraud in the 2009 elections -- protests by Iranians were the first flowering of the so-called Arab Spring.

Why the president would be hesitant to do so in this instance, where we are clearly in the wrong, is mysterious. Perhaps the president doesn't want to be seen apologizing to one of the world's worst governments. Nor might he want to remind voters of his commitment to negotiate with that government, or his awkward tendency to blame both aggressor and victim by urging restraint on both sides during the election protests. Still, he should apologize... and continue conducting intelligence overflights of Iran.

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SCOOP

10:12 PM ET

December 14, 2011

'Cuz he's trying to get re-elected?

He's Not Sorry by MICHAEL A. COHEN | DECEMBER 8, 2011
So why is Barack Obama so worried about Mitt Romney and being called the Apologist-in-Chief?

 

DAN NJ

10:29 PM ET

December 14, 2011

"It seems odd that President

"It seems odd that President Obama is willing to apologize for American actions in so many instances,"

Which instances? If anyone wants to point me to an article somewhere that lists out the times O has apologized for stuff America did it'd be appreciated.

 

BWADETIBA

2:50 AM ET

December 15, 2011

Obama has never apologized - quit spreading the myth

Obama has never apologized and Romney is a demagogue. PolitiFact rated Romney's claim "pants on fire" indicating Romney is a plain liar (big surprise).

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/sep/22/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-repeats-claim-obama-went-around-world-/

 

ANON45

12:54 AM ET

December 15, 2011

As I understand it the official US government position...

is that the drone had a malfunction while operating on the Iran-Afghanistan border and fell into Iranian territory. Why apologize for a malfunction?

This also makes it perfectly reasonable to ask for the drone back.

That said the government has done a terrible job of creating a united response. Fund PR better Mr. President, because many still have mixed signals as to what the US position is, hell I may have mixed signals : /, did the US government officially acknowledge it was spying?

 

ARCONDICIONADO11

1:58 AM ET

December 15, 2011

i Agree in " As I understand it the official US government ... "

i Agree is that the drone had a malfunction while operating on the Iran-Afghanistan border and fell into Iranian territory. This also makes it perfectly reasonable to ask for the drone back. Thanks for Sharing !

 

NICOLAS19

11:52 AM ET

December 15, 2011

let me draw a picture for you

Entering into a country's airspace without permission is a violation of international law. Conducting military espionage in a foreign country's airspace is an even graver violation of international law. That is why Obama should apologize.

The damage was done by the drone being in Iranian airspace, regardless of malfunctioning/shot down. If it was a malfunction, he should apologize. If it was deliberately there, he should apologize even more.

Let me give you an example: when hunting, your rifle discharges. If you hit his hat by accident, you apologize for your clumsiness. If you aim for his head, hitting the hat instead, that is even worse. In both cases, you have put his life in danger and may be prosecuted.

 

ANON45

7:22 PM ET

December 15, 2011

Your example is not accurate

hitting the hat would imply the drone crashed into a populated area with no civilian casualties, which it didn't.

In any case, we might apologize if the country was a friendly or even neutral country, but we are talking about a country we have hostile relations with bordering on the verge of war.

There is no reason to apologize to such a country for a malfunctioning drone, especially when they take that drone, claim it was spying, and won't return the malfunctioning drone to its actual owners. All they'd do is use an apology for their own political gain and to our political detriment.

This would be what I imagine the official view is.

To use an example that's a bit inaccurate in framing the official US government view, but no more than yours, You apologize for an accidental discharge and the person, who you've had bad relations with for years, calls the police and attempts to have you jailed for attempted murder and attempts to sue you for all the money he can get (in this case from China and Russia, and not just 'money'.

 

ANON45

7:25 PM ET

December 15, 2011

You're certainly right

that Iran has its own multitude of things to apologize about and skeletons in its closet, and that spying is an obvious thing between two countries of such relations.

Iran has spies in the US, the US has spies in Iran. The only difference here was that it was a drone instead of a human, not an unheard of thing to do, especially during the cold war.

All this amounts to political theater and pantomime because of that.

 

NICOLAS19

10:02 AM ET

December 16, 2011

missing the point

Two things:

- As I said: the damage was already done when the US did something illegal (inserting a military spy plane to another country's airspace), regardless of casualties. If you do something illegal because of an error, you still have to apologize. As for the adversary suing you: does it matter? No. Even if you did not do it in purpose, you are still liable for putting his life in danger. Recommend studying a bit of criminal law.

- Requesting impunity by quoting an alleged plot by an alleged spy with alleged connection to Iran. Let me remind you: the man plotting the alleged plot was not Iranian. Bringing that on par with the US's acknowledgement with "it's my American plane, I flew it, please give it back" is a bit off, don't you think?

 

WOLFBOY

4:18 AM ET

December 15, 2011

I call baloney

Dr. Schake says:

"Senator Obama would surely have cited such behavior by the previous administration as one more demonstration of the arrogance making the U.S. so unpopular in the world. "

I think this is nonsense. Has Obama ever made such a claim about US espionage practices? If so I am not aware of it, and I strongly doubt it. Bush apologized in the China incident (which involved a reconnaissance plane damaged in a mid-air collision, not a shot-down "spy plane") in order to provide for the return of the crew; he would not have made the same apology had this not been an issue.

You are becoming virtually hysterical in your eagerness to criticize Mr. Obama, Dr. Schake. I expect that even the Iranians would rather have no apology than the one you outline -- stuffed with aggressive self-justification, and utterly insincere given your recommendation that surveillance continue. What possible purpose would such an apology serve?

 

GISDUDEZ916

5:42 AM ET

December 15, 2011

Say What?

I'm sorry, but the stakes are too high for Iran and us to allow THEM nuclear weapons. It was illegal for us to enter Iranian air space, TRU DAT, however, Iran is a sponsor of terrorism and until they behave more responsibly and are more open than keep spying and reconnaisance.

 

SIEGGY

3:57 PM ET

December 16, 2011

You mean like NK, India, and Pakistan?

They all developed nukes over our hysterical objections and predictions of catastrophe. So far, nothing like the doomsayers bemoaned has come about. What most fail to realize is that a non-nuclear power is extremely unlikely to be on the receiving and of a nuke. But a nuclear power, well, if you can dish it out then you're expected to be able to take it.

So . . . Iran develops nukes. Are they willing to lose a dozen or so of their cities if they initiate an exchange with either the US or Israel? That's the thing about nukes . . . it makes the cost of war so prohibitive that they cannot be used. They're great as a status symbol, gets you into a better class of club, but to use them means national suicide.

And don't hand me the 'They will give them to terrorists!'. That's like handing a case of grenades to the psycho next door who has been shooting people up and down your street. You don't give out things that cost you enormous amounts of money and you have no assurance they won't decide to use them on you . . .

 

IAMNOTHERE

7:44 AM ET

December 15, 2011

Is this supposed to be satire again?

Why else would someone from Hoover Institution, a conservative and libertarian think tank, tell the president to apologize and expect to be taken seriously?

Wouldn't it have been more direct to tell him to resign and endorse Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich for president?

Thanks, but no thanks, buddy. And I use that term loosely.

But actually, thanks for reminding folks that Bush did apologize to China when he was in office. He should have apologized to the American people - and Israel - for empowering Iran in the Middle East. He still should.

 

JOHNBOY4546

12:01 PM ET

December 15, 2011

Hmmm, lots wrong with this article....

"Iran's unrelenting march to build nuclear weapons;"

Err, did you actually read the IAEA report? It repeatedly expressed its "concern" regarding the lack of transparency from Iran, but it does not call out Iran as relentlessly marching towards nukes.

There is no proof, you see, and the *fact* that the USA has spy drones criss-crossing Iranian airspace and *still* can't find any evidence of a nuke-making program is very telling indeed.

Just read the NIE if you don't believe me.

"that Iran is the world's most enthusiastic state sponsor of terrorism, including a recent effort to conduct political killings in America; "

As opposed to the enthusiastic killing of Iranian scientists?

Recently too, I'll add, and far more successful that that laughable "plot" involving a Texas used-car salesman.

"support to Hezbollah destabilizing the government of Lebanon;"

Dude, Hezbollah are A Part Of The Government Of Lebanon.

Two Cabinet Ministers, I believe.

"funding and recruiting Shi'ia militia in Iraq; "

Sure. How horrible, heh?

"assistance to Hamas derailing progress toward peace in Palestine; "

OK, I don't really understand what you are on about there since everyone who isn't, you know, AIPACish (or running for the Republican nomination) places the blame for the lack of progress on Netanyahu's insistence that he continue colonizing the West Bank.

"the erratic international behavior of Iran's leadership;"

Actually, while you may not *like* what they are doing, their behaviour has been quite steadfast and remarkably tolerant.

It's the other side who appear to be acting with borderline hysteria, while the Iranians appear to be acting like, well, adults.

"degrading repression of its own people;"

Oh, by the lofty standard of the USA I'm sure that's true.

But by the rather more lamentable standards of the Middle East (and I'm including Israel in that group) they aren't that "degrading" nor "repressive".

"widespread fraud in the 2009 elections -- protests by Iranians were the first flowering of the so-called Arab Spring."

Hmmm, that would be "widespread allegations" of fraud, would it not?

And am I the only person who noticed that the Persians aren't, you know, Arabs?

It certainly appears to have slipped your notice....

 

JGARBUZ

5:56 PM ET

December 16, 2011

Iran declared war on the Big Satan and the Little Satan over 30

years ago! The only thing is, the US only started to take Iran seriously very recently. And the stronger Iran gets, and the weaker the US gets, the more the Iranian menace has to be taken even more seriously. In the 1940s, Rommel was trying to get to the oil resources of the Persian gulf, and failed. Iran is astride them and wants more power over them. Why? To push oil prices even higher, and bring the Big Satan down. We now accept $100 a barrel; just wait till it gets to $200. A nuclear Iran would mean they could call the shots in OPEC literally.

 

DRLAKE777

1:57 PM ET

December 15, 2011

Reality's known liberal bias.

I'm mystified why FP keeps publishing garbage from partisan hacks like Kori Schake while characterizing it as part of "Notes from the Loyal Opposition". There is nothing "loyal" about peddling disinformation about the president, like the canard about his willingness to apologize that has already been thoroughly debunked in the comments to this, and it is to the discredit of FP that it continues to endorse such behavior.

It is perhaps unfortunate for conservatives that their international worldview is nothing but fantasy, complete with trolls and unicorns. More to the point, what is truly unfortunate is that clowns like this have a chance of actually influencing US foreign policy, in part because of organizations like FP that promulgate their shit.

 

HASS

6:07 PM ET

December 15, 2011

The AUTHOR should apologize

The author of this article should apologize for promoting such nonsense. What Iranian "unrelenting march towards nuclear weapons"??? The US NIE of 2011 says there's no nuclear weapons program. How do you accuse Iran of being against the peace process whilst Netanyhahu and Gingrich are around? And there was ZERO evidence of any fraud in the 2009 elections.

 

VICTORIA72

1:32 AM ET

December 16, 2011

unrelenting march towards something...

Nobody ask's exactly what Iran would do with nuclear arms, they have armed forces that are perfectly sufficient to cause far more loss of life than a few small badly built nuclear weapons. They wouldn't be able to use a nuclear weapon without inviting destruction from the israeli nuclear arsenal,in reality the money is far better spent on modern anti-aircraft and anti-shipping missiles (e.g the sunburn and s-300) than expensive maguffins they can't ever use.

The phantom threat of weapons of mass destruction is overused, I'd respect more sabre rattling with the justification of "we want to keep oil under 100$ a barrel" anything more just takes you into von ribbentrop territory.

 

PAROSKI

12:23 AM ET

December 16, 2011

Is this supposed to be satire again?

Why else would someone from Hoover Institution, a conservative and libertarian think tank,formula 21 tell the president to apologize and expect to be taken seriously?

Wouldn't it have been more direct to tell him to resign and endorse Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich for president?

Thanks, but no thanks, buddy. And I use that term loosely.

But actually, thanks for reminding folks that Bush did apologize to China when he was in office. He should have balderesi apologized to the American people - and Israel - for empowering Iran in the Middle East. He still should.

 

JGARBUZ

5:44 PM ET

December 16, 2011

The US would have to do a LOT of apologizing if it did so for

everyone whose territories its spy planes flew over. And I don't just mean Russia or Cuba or any of those. US spy planes, like the U-2 and SR-71 even overflew Israel to photograph and get intel on Dimona as far back as the early 1960s. I doubt Israel would ask for an American apology. But the US flies over and spies on anyone it can who has a nuclear program that even remotely threaten the US interests. The only difference is, that when you get shot down, and caught red-handed, it gets a little sticky.

 

GARVAGH

11:59 PM ET

December 16, 2011

Is Iran actually about to build nukes?

Given that Iran recently offered to cease production of 20% uranium, on what basis does the writer conclude Iran is an verge of building nukes?

 

ANNAK

2:07 PM ET

December 20, 2011

Consistency for Conservatives? Apply rules for Reagan to Obama.

Since the author calls for President Obama to apologize to Iran for the overnight of Iranian territory by the US drone, can I assume that he also believes that the Reagan Administration should have apologized for the destruction of a civilian Iranian airliner over Iranian territorial waters as it was ascending in altitude on a regular civilian flight path? That plane was shot down by a missile fired by the USS Vincennes on July 3, 1988.

In that case, then-Vice President George H.W. Bush said:

"I'll never apologize for the United States of America. Ever. I don't care what the facts are."

So, with the history of President Reagan refusing to accept responsibility in the Vincennes case and the statement of then-VP Bush, let's see a bit of conservative consistency. Either apologize for the Reagan-Bush failure to own up to a terrible error that resulted in 290 civilian deaths in Iran's own airspace from missiles fired by a US warship that had moved into Iran's territorial seas or withdraw the call for President Obama to apologize regarding the drone flight into Iranian airspace.

Hypocrisy in order to achieve a political point isn't a conservative virtue, is it?

 

GARRISONSANDERS

7:42 AM ET

January 13, 2012

Has Obama ever made such a

Has Obama ever made such a claim about US espionage practices? If so I am not aware of it, and I strongly doubt it. Bush apologized in the China GarrisonSanders incident (which involved a reconnaissance plane damaged in a mid-air collision, not a shot-down "spy plane") in order to provide for the return of the crew; he would not have made the same apology had this not been an issue.

 

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