Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 8:08 PM

After campaigning on the untenable promise that he would meet with leaders like Kim Jong Il without preconditions, President Obama has actually approached North Korea with a firmness that sometimes eluded the Bush administration in its last year. The Obama administration has strengthened trilateral security coordination with Japan and South Korea; implemented tough U.N. Security Council sanctions against the North after its nuclear tests; and rebuffed Chinese pressure for emergency six-party talks in the wake of Pyongyang's unprovoked attacks on South Korea. Given the North's escalating provocations and nuclear cheating and Beijing's dangerous complacency, this is the only strategy that has a prospect of deterring further belligerency and reversing the incentives the North sees in proliferation on the peninsula and beyond.
This past week, however, senior Japanese and South Korean officials are reporting that the administration has begun signaling to them that the United States is ready to "shift back to dialogue" with the North. The Blue House in Seoul now feels under pressure to accelerate its own resumption of North-South dialogue so that U.S.-DPRK talks can get under way (since the administration has rightly stated that it would not get ahead of its ally South Korea's own diplomacy toward Pyongyang). In Tokyo there is an eerie sense of déjà vu at yet another potential swing in the pendulum of U.S. North Korea policy. Both Tokyo and Seoul want some dialogue with the North, and the administration deserves credit for how closely it has coordinated strategy with both capitals. But since the Hu Jintao visit to Washington, the dynamic seems to have shifted from U.S.-Japan-ROK trilateral pressure on China to rein in the North to a new pattern of U.S.-China pressure on Seoul to pick up the pace of engagement (that, at least, is how one senior ROK official put it to me). Given our inconsistent history on North Korea to date, one can understand why our allies would be a bit nervous about where all this might go.
Dialogue is not bad, as long as the expectations are realistic. What are the administration's expectations? Three possibilities come to mind: one of them would be delusional, one potentially problematic, and one quite reasonable.
The delusional expectation would be that Pyongyang is ready to deal on nuclear weapons. While some administration allies on the progressive left make this argument, I do not think anybody in the senior levels of the Obama administration believes it … and for good reason. Pyongyang has announced it will be a full nuclear-weapons state by 2012 and is unapologetically violating every agreement it has ever made in order to get there.
The second expectation could be that dialogue is necessary in order to de-escalate from last year's pattern of confrontation and crisis. This logic is correct, but only up to a point. My Georgetown University and CSIS colleague Victor Cha issued a report last May that tracked 60 years of inverse correlation between U.S.-DPRK dialogue and North Korean provocations (i.e., when we are talking, the North Koreans tend not to blow things up). This report has apparently resonated in the administration and animated the discussions about re-engaging the North. However, as Victor points out, the data does not necessarily demonstrate a causal link between dialogue and lack of North Korean provocations. In fact, on most occasions the North Koreans walked out of talks unilaterally and then conducted nuclear tests or military provocations. In other words, Pyongyang has retained control over when dialogue will be an obstacle to its own desired proliferation or military actions. Moreover, talks have rarely prevented the North from continuing with proliferation activities clandestinely, as we have learned with increasing clarity after the fact. Finally, there is a danger that our own obsession with reducing tensions through dialogue could actually create more tensions in the long run, since Pyongyang will always be in a position to manufacture new crises when it wants to up the ante. It would be an enormous mistake to assume yet again that the danger of war means we need dialogue more than Pyongyang does. When that happens, we start paying for the dialogue by easing tensions in ways that only help the North advance its primary goal of nuclear weaponization and increased pressure on us.
The third possible reason for talking would be as a complement to the current strategy of alliance-centered deterrence, interdiction, pressure on the North's overseas financial and technology arteries (including in China) -- and preparation for possible change in the North post-Kim Jong Il. In this context, reliable communication channels with the North could help clarify strategic signals (in terms of both sticks and potential carrots), increase understanding of North Korean tactical intentions in a crisis, and probe over time the possibility for more substantial negotiations. However, expectations of negotiated outcomes would remain low, as would our willingness to invest in the process by reducing pressure on the North. If this is the administration's perspective, our defensive measures with Japan and South Korea and our efforts at interdiction and sanctions implementation would be redoubled in light of Pyongyang's determined push to mount nuclear weapons on ballistic missiles, regardless of whether we are talking to them in Beijing or some place.
My guess is that the administration's debate about engaging North Korea is somewhere between reasons two and three. Hopefully, they are closer to reason three, and the architects of the strategy will proceed knowing exactly what they think they can achieve from dialogue and what it would be worth. Otherwise, it is will far too easy to slip into a process with the North where we become more afraid of ending talks than they are of our deterrent power. Let's talk, but let's not go there again.
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After reading the wikileak on Daily Mail it is clear that the United States courted opposition groups to Mubarak in 2008 at UN(specifically groups such as Muslim brotherhood) I find it odd that as events started to unfold in middle east, China was meeting with Mr. Obama.
America backs the toppling(indirectly if not directly) of a regime which has been lock step with it's foreign policy for 50 years. To me it seems like a clear message to the rest of US allies who have authoritarian regimes.
Afghanistan is soon going to be over, and from all the information I have gathered it looks like Obama is going to be pulling out of middle east. The balance of power has clearly shifted toward Tehran, and Obama will not pursue idealistic goals of toppling regimes like Bush or even the majority of his predecessors did. Every indicator from my point of view is that we will be ramping up to possibly push to topple the Kim dynasty.
America is forcing China to respond to this by pressuring them with public asseveration of increasing there democratic process of which China with fears of disorder and undoing of all progress in China. It is yet to be seen if China will go along with president on this, but even from a domestic political perspective, this would be to Obama's benefit. Republicans are split on this issue. The Neoconservatives would follow Obama on this issue, the establishment would be split and the tea party caucus would be opposed.
This is one of the few issues where Obama would have the potential to split Republicans. His own party would be split, but it would pull many centrists to Obama's side. The left who is the majority of Democrats would be split on the issue to go the war, but with support of the center of the party, most of the republican establishment and neoconservatives, Obama could win on the issue.
Obama could assert to China that this would increase there influence around the world and force recognition from the rest of the world. A modern Chinese military rolling into Pyongyang along side American forces would remind people of Soviets invading Berlin and you would have established characters like McCain emulating Churchill as it would be unfolding.
After rereading my comment, it was a bit extreme. I was tired and was thinking of a worst case scenario.
US Presidential elections are coming up
‘Obama going wobbly on North Korea’ is a sure sign that US presidential elections are coming up. Poor fellow has to show some sign of progress about containing North Korea’s nuclear program during upcoming presidential debates.
China, the master of North Korea is counting on US presidential election cycles to milk US and its allies for some more aid for its client state.
This also proves that South Korea and Japan are US puppets, just as much as North Korea is China’s puppet. Puppeteers pull the strings and puppets have to dance accordingly.
After complaining in several of the last few posts on this blog about an unwillingness to look back on their own history in the past administration, I would be remiss not to recognize this author for having done so; after all, it is this very history and their experience in it that makes the authors of this blog worth reading.
In addition, I would like to thank the author for a very well reasoned post; I may not agree with every facet of it, but he has given me every reason to respect his opinion.
Thank you for a very illuminating article.
Of course you won't get North Korea to give up it's nukes at first, you will be able to ensure they won't get more fissile weapons-grade material though. But they won't give up anything without anything in return. They are a country with almost no relations to the rest of the world, but a country that doesn't want to be isolated. A country that has been promised civilian nuclear reactors several times without getting them. First the russians didn't deliver on the promise to build VVER-reactors in the 80's. Then the 94 agreed framework deal where they froze all domestic development in return for normalized relations with the US and for the KEDO project which would deliver them western reactors which they could pay for, in a multitude of way including through goods. But the KEDO-project broke down. For them a huge betrayal from the US.
Now they have set their mind on building civilian light water reactors and all the facilities that comes with that, they won't give that up, they have been let down too many times on the subject. NK isn't about getting concessions from the west, 94 agreed framework was agreed on before any widespread famine and international food aid. So the key now is just to make the program compliant with international treaties. So it can be monitored and supported. You can still make them give it up, but they won't move fast enough. Some how it's seen as unreasonable for North Korea to have normalized relations with other countries. For NK to grow, they need to have access to SK and Japanese markets, ships need to be able to move from Rajin or Sonbong to Japan, otherwise the whole SEZ is lost.
With economic means you could get NK to shut down it's missile program, you could get it to halt the nuclear weapons program and possibly in the future get them to disarm. But it you don't engage, you will get them to build more nuclear facilitates, continue to sell missile systems as it earns then hard currency and so on. NK doesn't want stuff for free, but without access to international markets they can't do much more then selling weapons and build statues in African states. And they desperately need energy, treating every enterprise they have as criminal means they won't be able to go out and buy it like SK has to. Neither will they afford food. A very small trade increase would ensure they at least got food though.
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