Monday, October 18, 2010 - 12:07 PM

My erstwhile political science partner at Duke, Christopher Gelpi, has written a fascinating paper analyzing how the public's views on war vary depending on what they view on television. He has reached some interesting conclusions which, if correct, suggest that President Obama may be more beholden to Fox News than he might like.
Using a survey that interviewed Americans in September/October 2008, Gelpi analyzed the viewpoints of the general public grouped according to whether they got their news primarily from Fox News, from MSNBC, from Comedy Central, or from other sources. (Why Comedy Central, you might ask? Because when you hang around college students you run into a surprising number who get the lion's share of their current events from watching The Daily Show and Colbert Report.)
Gelpi finds, not surprisingly, that there is a powerful selection effect going on. Fox News and MSNBC report the news in very different ways and the public naturally gravitates towards the news outlet most congenial to their worldview; conservatives and Republicans flock to Fox News and liberals and Democrats flock to MSNBC and Comedy Central.
What he set out to assess, however, was something more nuanced: whether there was anything beyond this selection effect at work -- whether being a Fox News (or MSNBC) watcher made someone more inclined towards the viewpoint offered on that channel than that person would have been without watching it. The only way to settle this dispositively would be through a complex and coercive experiment: locking subjects in the room for months at a time and forcing them to watch different doses of the news. Such random assignment experimental trials are the gold standard in research on human subjects but for obvious reasons they aren't viable for most of the things we study in my corner of political science. (But as my FP colleague Dan Drezner can attest, professors sometimes dream up such schemes, usually over late night beers at professional conferences.)
To get around this limitation, Gelpi uses a sophisticated statistical technique called "matching" that compares the Fox News watchers in his sample to other respondents who match the Fox News folks in many, many respects (age, gender, religious views, political ideology, etc.) except the crucial one that they do not watch Fox News; the same sort of analyses are done on MSNBC watchers and Comedy Central watchers. He then compares the attitudes of those paired groups on the crucial question of support for the Afghan and Iraq wars.
He finds that MSNBC and Comedy Central watchers are no less likely to oppose the wars than their matched profile counterparts who happen not to watch those channels. Inference: Watching MSNBC and Comedy Central does not appear to make folks less supportive of the wars than they already were, which was not very. However, Fox News watchers were more supportive of the wars than their otherwise matched counterparts who did not watch Fox News. Inference: watching Fox News does appear to make folks more supportive of the wars.
There are other possible explanations that need further analysis before Gelpi can know for sure. Perhaps there is some hitherto unidentified feature that distinguishes Fox News watchers from their matched counterparts that explains who watches what and also explains attitudes on the wars; in other words, perhaps it is just selection effects after all and Gelpi has not yet identified all the factors driving the selection. Or perhaps the greater diversity of the Fox News audience makes them more open to persuasion. The audience for MSNBC and Comedy Central is not just small but also quite narrow, whereas the audience for Fox News is not just much larger but also quite diverse; a surprisingly high number of Democrats, for instance, watch Fox News.
But if Gelpi's inferences are correct and durable, then he expects over time a cumulative "echo chamber" effect with views hardening and polarizing. The implications for President Obama and support for his wars are intriguing. Despite Obama's obvious antipathy toward Fox News, Gelpi's research suggests that the president's best chance at mobilizing public support may involve reaching out to Fox viewers. Gelpi's research is not dispositive on this point because his data is from 2008, before Obama took office. But it is a subject worth studying further and, I would venture to say, a subject worth discussing in the White House.
Yeah - that's an idea - Obama reach out to Fox news viewers. Like when he wanted bi-partisan support for the stimulus, financial regulation, or health care. What did that get him? Would Fox News and its viewers offer him anything in support - except for continued support for wars begun under his immediate predecessor in office? He does not need that.
He can reach out to Fox news and its viewers, but he'd better do so with a protective gauntlet unless he wants to lose some fingers in the process. And that will surely not sit right with his base, the people who worked hardest to elect him. Most of them, as you have pointed out, do not support these wars, and want him to just find a way out before we piss away more blood and treasure.
Obama ran on unity, yet with his party's control of Congress he found it merely convenient to steamroll the minority and blow off their concerns.
He should be impeached for his blatant fecklessness in the face of the Gulf blowout. A president LEADS, he doesn't pontificate while disaster spreads.
This man is out of his depth, yet he's convinced he knows better than those clinging to their God and their guns.
He's worse than Carter.
You would abuse the constitution for your own narrow and biased purposes and agendas.
I'd love to see the Republicans, should they gain control of the House, impeach Obama. If the R's did this, it would guarantee reelection of the president in 2012 on the Obama-Clinton ticket.
Be careful of what YOU wish for.
Chuck, please control your vitriole - or apply it consistently
If you propose that Obama be impeached for his "fecklessness", what would you consider fair penance for Bush and Cheney for declaring an unprovoked war on a sovereign nation (which, coincidentally, helped turn a record surplus to a record deficit) and managing it so ineptly ?
What you're trying to tell us is that Faux News watchers are supportive of the Afghan war and Obama is trying to continue the war, so Obama needs Faux News watchers? That's crap. What passes as news on the FNC is more likely to promote the idea that Obama is losing the war, is pulling out against the advice of his military generals. There is no reason to court the Faux News watchers - they've already been brainwashed against this president.
Funny of course, because when there was a Repub president, there was an absolute faith in the execution of a war president's agenda. I guess that standard was thrown out the window after Obama's inauguration, wasn't it?
After this small hiccup of an study, the liberals can go back to watching The View and Rachel Maddow along with Comedy Central for their news.
Conservatives can go back to watching the Military Channel and Hannity and neither will be the wiser, having been whipped up to a political frenzy by the respective program directors and owners.
Generally best to have several sources of news. They all have a point of view. duh.
This article is silly.
Fox has been strongly promoting nationalistic and pro-war feeling ever since. If Gelpi had done his study "on the crucial question of support for the"...
healthcare reform and not on the support for the
..."Afghan and Iraq wars" then I would actually be interested in the results.
I disagree on the notion that this is a silly article. I do agree however that it would be an interesting study to look at other issues. Are the same inferences valid for other issues (i.e. the healthcare reform you bring up)? Is there a different effect between issues of domestic policy vs. foreign policy? Does the matching used control for enough variables? Are MSNBC viewers so far left in their starting views that they don't have as much room to change (i.e. does the MSNBC crowd have the same capacity to have their views affected)?
The piece by Peter, Peter, Peter refers to excellent social science research - exceptionally good political science research in particular - by his colleague Christopher Gelpi. Peter, Peter, Peter recognizes and knows something superb when he sees it.
While any effort at social science research is inherently biased, one must look at the methodology to determine its worth and validity. While one can disagree with the subjective conclusion, i.e., that Obama should stick his neck out to try in vain to reach Faux TV News viewers, one can also see that some excellent methods and findings are conceived and made in this pre Obama presidency social/political science research.
We should have more of this social/political science methodology at once.
Republicans have been obstructionist to Obama's agenda, in favor of their own exclusionary agenda, which was roundly defeated in the 2008 election of Barak Obama and, which again and more significantly to the country's future, will be roundly routed by the reelection of Obama in 2012.
Because of intransigent Republican attitudes and views, Obama has no purpose to 'reach out' to Faux News. The voters who elected Obama in states such as Colorado, North Carolina, Indiana, Nevada etc don't waste their time watching any news, which is why the R's are very likely to win control of the House come next January. And which is why Pres Obama will be reelected in 2012 - decisively also, a reelection which will seal the Republican party's long term doomed reactionary fate for the next two generations at the least.
All Pres Obama needs to do is to be on the ballot in 2012. Obama-Clinton would be just fine.
Faux News after that will continue to chew on and crawl through the dust of Obama's and Clinton's continuous progressive trail.
Republicans will just have to chew on that for a (long) while.
This is the Foxnews lineup on a weekday basis, and you tell me how they can get a fair shake.
6-9AM; the idiocy of Doocy, Kilmeade and Carlson. 3 conservatives who never met a Democrat they like unless it was a conservative one.
9-Noon; Bill Hemmer and Jon Scott; These idiots just read and think what Rupert wants them to read and think. It's Republican talking points time.
Noon-3PM; More stupidity, mainly from the most anti-Obama shill the network has in Megan Kelly. This woman is so warped, she makes O'Reilly seem sane.
3-4; Shepard Smith. Maybe the only time during the day that Foxnews seems a little fair and balanced. Shep has his moments too, but compared to the other wingnuts, he is pretty good.
4-5; More wingnuttery in Neil Cavuto. This guy is a blithering idiot 90% of the time.
5-6; Glenn Beck; Perhaps the most insane host Foxnews has. Lies flow from this mans mouth at almost every sentence. Truly BSC!!!
6-7; Special Report with Brett Baier; 3 conservative panelists to supposedly 1 Democratic or liberal voice. Truly fair and balanced right?? Hume, Krauthammer, Hayes, Barnes, and any other conservative you care to name. Liasson and Williams seem lost on that show.
7-8; Shep back again with the news. No guests, just news.
8-9; O'Reilly; Anytime a liberal shows up on his show, and starts to make a point that the falafel man doesn't like, he cuts the mic off. A haven for any conservative to blather on incoherently
9-10; Hannity; Perhaps second only to Beck in insanity. Useless, totally useless.
10-11; Greta. Just another ass kisser for the likes of Sarah Palin, Christine O'Donnell and anyone else pretending to know what the hell they're talking about.
So you tell me Peter, where are the Democrats going to be a fair shake with a lineup that is so one-sided, it makes you sick??? Answer, they can't, so why even try.
We've returned to the previous period of the 19th century partisan press but we've done so in a much more sophisticated way than during the days and times of long ago.
While the partisan press of the 19th century US was only narrow minded and appealed to an unsophisticated closed minded market, the partisan press/media of today are easily recognizable for what they are, as we can discern from the comments above for instance.
I and so many others in the present day and age can like Keith Olbermann on MSNBC while also being able to present a conscious and detailed critique and criticism of Faux News, as is presented above. And vice versa?
The expression 'whatever the market will bear' has a completely and radically different meaning these days and into the future.
Obama's voters in 2012 neither watch Faux News nor will most of them vote in 2010. On the coming Nov 3rd Faux news one way or the other will be crowing. Then there will be the morning after the election of November 2012, when Faux News will be speechless except for its aching and groaning.
People certainly weren't stupid or unsophisticated in the 19th century, least I could accuse you of "Chronological Snobbery" . Look that up if you need to. With as much incredulous mud-slinging as goes on today, it seems only technology has moved forward.
Unless we can at least appear to have quelled the Islamofascist's "unrest" and kick-start a good portion of the market back into an upswing, Obama's done. You and I know neither will happen in the next two years. (BTW, I'm not a Republican).
Also, if you can't admit it for ego reasons, MSNBC and it's liberal ilk are every bit as pathetically left as Fox is stubbornly right leaning. I can use the Juan Williams - NPR incident as perfect example. Maybe you have a pet acronym for MSNBC as well? I'd love to hear it since you've joined the "Faux News" Clique du jour.
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