Friday, September 3, 2010 - 12:01 PM

Subtle shifts in the balance of power are difficult to detect yet of foremost importance to peace and stability. And even if detected in a timely fashion, policymakers can be slow to react. But maintaining a balance of power favorable to one's interests is one of a president's key tasks. On that score, our leaders have been negligent for over a decade.
Occasionally, presidents detect shifts in the military balance when it is too late and then compound the problem by responding with questionable policy choices. For example, President Eisenhower's policy of massive retaliation was, in part, a response to what seemed to be a loss of the U.S nuclear monopoly and Soviet conventional supremacy in continental Europe. (Eisenhower also wanted to maintain U.S superiority on the cheap -- by cutting Truman's conventional defense build-up).
A policy of responding with a nuclear attack to Soviet aggression anywhere did not seem very prudent to many at the time, but at least the president took the perceived shift in the balance of power seriously. Some of President Nixon and Carter's questionable arms control ideas were a response to a shift in the strategic balance in favor of the Soviets. Unfortunately, most of the time, policymakers do not react to an adversary's growing capabilities until met with disaster (e.g. Pearl Harbor, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, 9/11).
Today the balance of power in Asia is shifting. Since the end of World War II, Washington has kept the peace in Asia through its forward presence of military forces and its uncontested ability to project force into the region. Take an example from just 14 years ago. Realizing how destabilizing were China's missile tests conducted in the waters around Taiwan, President Clinton sent carrier battle groups near the Taiwan Strait. The missile tests stopped, Taiwan held its elections, and conflict was avoided.
Today, any president would think twice about doing the same. Why? China has arguably gained conventional supremacy around its periphery. Without remediation this could become a hard fact. China's growing short-range missile arsenal (maybe up to 1,500) and fleet of modern aircraft could not only be used to destroy much of Taiwan, but could also be used to strike devastating blows against U.S. forces in Japan. Together with its fast-growing submarine fleet, the Chinese missile force will, within the next decade, be able to cause serious harm to U.S. carriers steaming into the region.
Beijing has been focused like a laser beam on how to coerce and intimidate Taiwan while deterring U.S. and Japanese intervention. Washington has not given the same attention to defense. Our shipbuilding program has atrophied, our ability to protect the bases from which our aircraft fly is non-existent, and there is nothing in the current navy or air force programs of record that demonstrate our attentiveness to this problem.
As a country, we have become so accustomed to projecting air and sea power with impunity anywhere in the world that the idea that our aircraft could be shot down or surface ships sunk seems like science fiction. But China has been studying how to undermine the way we do battle for decades, and its efforts are bearing fruit.
A president choosing to respond to a Chinese attack on Taiwan would now face a host of bad options, most of which are dangerously escalatory. If U.S. forces or those of an ally were attacked, Washington could eventually bring its superior power to bear from other theaters of conflict, but it would take time, and, as shown both in the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment's AirSea Battle and in RAND's A Question of Balance, would probably require hitting military targets in China itself. Considering China's growing conventional superiority, a president's response to a devastating blow by the Chinese against U.S., Japanese, and Taiwanese assets may, by necessity, be highly escalatory.
The good news is that it is not too late to restore some stability to the equation. The United States is a far richer and more stable nation than China. With marginal adjustments in how we spend our finite tax-payer dollars, we can restore a favorable conventional balance in the Pacific that would lessen Chinese temptations to use force and provide us with more strategically stable defensive options should Beijing succumb to those temptations. We seek a cooperative relationship with China, which makes it difficult to think about the unthinkable -- a conflict with China. But a conflict with the United States is just about all the PLA thinks about, and for the sake of peace we must take them seriously.
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U.S. carrriers defenseless against China's mach 6 anti-carrier I
U.S. carriers are defenseless against China's mach 10 anti-carrier ICBM, the "DF-31A missile".
The DF-31A is a nuclear ICBM. I doubt they would use it on an aircraft carrier.
DF 31 is the inter-intercontinental ballistic missile. DF 21D is the mid range missile. It is said to aim at moving objects, eg, aircraft carrier.
We Americans must be honest with ourselves...
Mainland & taiwan have been one political/social entity long BEFORE 1949.
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Even more than 50% of taiwanese people hold that mainland & taiwan are rightfully ONE country today (taiwanese KMT political party, to which "president" Ma Ying-Jeou belongs)!!
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It is a stupid relic of the Cold War to say that taiwan & mainland are not rightfully one country...The issue (of which the USA is factually on the WRONG side is used to justify US hegemony in Asia).
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The USA would never tolerate another country instigating Civil War between the States of the USA, so why would China???
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The USA has a long history of promoting Civil War on other countries (such as spliting the Panama region away from Colombia, which then became "Panama" the country)...Why did the USA do this?? to promote its hegemony is Latin America (and so, same thing in Asia against China).
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Lastly, Mainland & taiwan have recently signed a Free-Trade pact, that ALSO alows the island to trade with Singapore (THUS showing that the oversimplified mischaracterization of THIS article that the relation ship between mainland & island are more bilateral than military threats, as this article asserts, is false).
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...How do Americans look at themselves in the mirror??
The United States fully well knows that in a time of actual, real, all out attack, the aircraft carrier is a dead duck in the water.
However, in the present time, circumstances and global power balance, the aircraft carrier is a powerful weapon. Given this reality, Prez Clinton in 1996 sent two aircraft carrier battle groups (approx 24 ships) to the Taiwan Strait to stop the CPC/PPC firing missles into the waters surrounding Taiwan previous to the election of the separatist Chen Shui Bian as president. This is the present effect of the 12 US aircraft carrier battle groups.
In the current global strategic military environment, the US has successfully and effectively used carrier battle groups in the (illegitimate) Iraq war and in Afghanistan. The US in the current global strategic environment continues to use aircraft carrier battle groups as a big stick while, for the most part, doing nothing - manouvers in the (Persian) Gulf off Iran for example contributed to the release of seized Brit hostages several years ago, while accomplishing several other things such as, inter alia, Iran backing off in its support of al Qaeda in Iraq and Afghanistan (much to the consternation of the CPC/PRC), and of Hamas in the Middle East (much to the relief of that "Jew state" some certain of you hate so much).
In a real, actual war - not a one off attack - the US isn't going to rely on its aircraft carrier battle groups. The CPC/PRC leadership civilian and military has repeated wet dreams of sinking a US aircraft carrier, which would be an easy pickings assignment for any modern military to do (hell, even the French could do it if they really wanted to haha).
In a real, actual, all out war, the CPC/PRC isn't going to get a chance to realize its wet dreams of sinking a US aircraft carrier, of which the PRC itself hasn't any at all (inferior technology for all of its vaunted science and maths and all of that). Indeed, the CPC/PRC doesn't stand any chance of winning any attack or war against the US. Period. If you know what I mean.
Anthony,China and Taiwan are one
I agree with Anthony, it is indeed time for Taiwan to absorb China and provide some sanity to China along with the world's economy...........
Thank Nixon-Kissinger foresight for this power shift
Nixon in his infinite wisdom decided to embrace China’s Communist dragon to counter Russia’s Soviet bear in 1972.
China was a pariah country in the world just like today’s North Korea until Nixon’s 1972 visit. All the West European and East Asian countries stayed away from China following the US lead until 1972 and embraced China after Nixon’s visit. While US would not give MFN status to Soviet Union (remember Jackson-Vanik amendment?) unless Russia shed Communism, it had no problem giving it to China’s Communist dictators with a capitalist mask. Trade with China expanded by leaps and bounds during 12 years of Republican rule beginning in 1981. After campaigning against butchers of Beijing in 1992 elections, even Bill Clinton became enthusiastic supporter of trade with China once he took lessons in foreign policy from Nixon in early 1993 during a special Whitehouse-arranged meeting. US also promoted China to a super power status by accepting it as a permanent UNSC member.
By opening up vast US consumer market and subsequently European market to cheap Chinese products, US and Europe have helped China accumulate huge foreign exchange reserves that China has used to procure all kind of modern military equipment. With its huge diplomatic missions worldwide, China has been able to spy away all the military technologies that US and Europe are unwilling to sell.
Nixon’s 1972 trip to China was supposed to benefit US businesses by opening up a billion-strong Chinese consumer market. Instead China has benefited far more from 300 million US and 250 million European consumers.
China has US by its tail. US businesses are hooked to huge profits that cheap Chinese products generate for them as a walk through any Walmart, Sears or Home Depot filled with Chinese goods proves and US government is hooked to huge investments that China makes in US treasuries.
Little could Mao or even Deng have imagined that by wearing a capitalist mask, their followers will beat capitalists at their own game. Lenin used to say that ’capitalists will sell us the ropes with which we will hang them’. With the West selling such ropes (in the form of technology transfers), China has proved that Lenin saying quite prophetic.
China has produced cheap products for the whole to enjoy and the profits have gone into the pockets of foreign corporations. China should stop sending its cheap products to the world so that a TVs etc will cost $5000 instead of $1000.
Mao's China is dead. Lenin's USSR collapsed generations ago of its own murderous Stalinism and its dead weight of government dictatorship. Deng's China is dependent on the West for its capital.
The reactionary fascist censoring CPC/PRC has no model to offer to the world other than the same-o-same-o 5000 year old dictatorship by control freaks that the Jung Gwo always have been, have had and continue to be.
Bank of America, HSBC in the UK, Bank of New York and Wachovia Bank in the United States and other private or sovereign banks of various countries of the West are buying into banks in the CPC/PRC to right the balance sheet of international finance. CPC/PRC law limits foreign ownership of any entity to 20% so BoA, HSBC, the UK Bank of Communications and other Western banks each are buying 20% of certain banks in the CPC/PRC, such as the China Construction Bank and other banks.
Western ownership of banks under the 20% CPC/PRC law is aggregating to as much as 60% of the ownership of a given bank in the CPC/PRC. The Bank of China is not in play, however, as it is corrupt and full of nepotism, cronyism and CPC employees, making it a wholly undesirable incompetent entity to Western bankers and investment houses.
As with all ideologies, i.e., brain diseases, you are dreaming and continue to fantasize your own imaginings. Your ideology hasn't any contact with reality. Keep at it though, as you continue to expose yourself and your beloved USSR and CPC/PRC, DPRK and Cuba as bankrupt in every way, economically, morally, socially, culturally and personally.
Yes, do keep at it.
China has bought 2500 billions of America's debt and a certain amount in EU and Japan. That's the biggest bank.
"e.g. Pearl Harbor, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, 9/11". Pearl Harbor and the invasion of Afghanistan at least had the potential to alter a strategic balance, 9/11 by contrast was completely pointless.
As for throwing away even more money at an already bloated military budget - how long does he expect that to continue to work?
The Soviets tried it, and look what happened to them...
Some "entangling alliances" might be in order.
The decline of the Egyptian empire, the Roman empire, the Byzentine Empire, the Mongolian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the British Empire, the Ming Empire, the Tang Empire, the Soviet Empire and now the American "Bully and Hegemonic" Empire is the usual business of rise and fall of empires.
The fall of American Empire just started. The first sign of decline is its debt due to military interference of others,ie, Iraq invasion. its moral decline is that it did not find "weapons of mass destruction". Its unipolar action and interference in containing others to develop has not yielded any results. The second sign is that its debt due to war efforts and unnecessary weapon production have resulted in enormous debt to foreign countries. The third sign is its inability to grow its economic significantly. The fourth sign is overseas allies have drifted farther apart since few years ago, eg, the calling of removal of military bases from Okinawa and the return of military control to South Korea. Although the American had suppressed further separation between these allies with some smart moves, it will not succeed for long.
The rise and fall of empire do not happen overnight, but it will come. The American Empire can only hope that the rate of decline will extrapolate into the future at the present rate. It will try to prevent such decline by demonizing all its opponents,eg, Russia, China, etc.
"History repeats itself" is a well known cliche'. The Jung Gwo are very good at reciting cliches. You're very good at reciting, period.
You and your ideology of dictatorship and censorship are a well known cliche'.
The CPC/PRC is en route to becoming a cliche' of history, same as Nazi Germany, the Showa Japan of WW II, the empire of Genghis Khan - the list of your censoring dictatorships that you so much love and admire, and which are piled up on the trash heap of history is broad and deep.
The CPC/PRC is next on the list.
Publicus, you got it wrong again.
Are you disputing that history repeats itself? Or are you disputing history does not repeats and it is only a "cliche" used by no one else but Chinese?
Open your eyes Repulicus: the remaining government of the past communist China is getting stronger. How do you equate that with Genghis Khan? What I am saying is that the government system in China works and American unipolar positioning is weaking. There is a chance China may surpass the Western world and lead the world into a differen era.
Please sell me something regarding this article and not stray away into "India democracy defense".
I do not think "History repeats itself" excludes China
China declined 200 years ago and will rise and decline again. Just like the long history of Chinese itself, dynasty rise and decline ...... The whole concept of nations, religions ....... Attacking each other does not make sense if we think the whole human being will extinct eventually.
I do not agree that the history is all trash heap. Every culture has its strength and weakness. You could not follow the western media and use "dictatorship" to summarize a whole culture/nation.
I mean the whole concepts of nations, religions ......
... are all man made
DEBBIEL: Of course China is part of history and repeat itself
China has three previous prosperous period: Han dynasty at 2200 years ago; Tang at 1500 years ago and I believe the last one was begining of Qing 300 years ago. For the last 2000 years, China was the richest nation, except for the last 200 years. It is believed it will prosper again in future to come.
Mainland & taiwan have been one political/social entity long BEFORE 1949 (and that fact has always been maintained, even by the common Chinese people).
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Even more than 50% of taiwanese people hold that mainland & taiwan are rightfully ONE country today (taiwanese KMT political party, to which "president" Ma Ying-Jeou belongs)!!
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It is a stupid relic of the Cold War to say that taiwan & mainland are not rightfully one country...The issue (of which the USA is factually on the WRONG side is used to justify US hegemony in Asia).
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The USA would never tolerate another country instigating Civil War between the States of the USA, so why would China???
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The USA has a long history of promoting Civil War on other countries (such as spliting the Panama region away from Colombia, which then became "Panama" the country)...Why did the USA do this?? to promote its hegemony is Latin America (and so, same thing in Asia against China).
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...How do Americans look at themselves in the mirror??
MISCHARACTERIZATION by THIS article.
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The recent Free Trade agreement between China and taiwan shows that the relationship between the mainland and the island is not simply or necessarily one of overt aggression.
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Therefore, the assertions of THIS article are false and a mischaracterization
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The mainland & taiwan have been one country before the revolution of 1949 (and that position of the Chinese people, including the Chinese of taiwan, has never changed).
iPods and a China Confrontation
Any future conflict or skirmish with China probably wouldn't have anything to do with Taiwan. After all, Taiwan based Inventec, produces all of Apple’s iPods. Neither the U.S. nor China wants any disruption in their daily lives, such as a shortage of iPods! Just kidding - sort of. And though I am no China expert and may be wrong, the international business community would seem to agree with me, considering the considerable investment they have set-up on the Island.
Frankly, at this time frame, the constant drum-beat to prepare for a military confrontation with China over Taiwan is driven more by the U.S. defense industry than reality, which was why Congress passed the Taiwan Security Enhancement Act of 1999, through considerable pressure from the defense industry lobby.
If the author wants to make an argument for good reasoning why the U.S. needs the ability to project credible naval and long range aviation power into the region that China now asserts as their near abroad, Taiwan ain't one of them. But China's more militant territorial claims in the South China Sea and narrow interpretation of the law of the sea there are.
I fear the thoughtful comment here is wasted on this thread, but wanted to point out that projection capabilities needed to defend Taiwan against Chinese attack and those needed to dispute Chinese territorial claims in the South China Sea are not readily distinguishable. For either purpose, the ability to maintain naval forces in the area against the threat of attack from submarines, aircraft and missiles would be required. The major difference I can see is that cooperation with the naval and air forces of other nations in the region must be a central element in disputing Chinese ambitions to dominate the South China Sea; a Chinese attack on Taiwan, by contrast, would be unlikely to draw in other powers.
The other observation I'd make here is the main comments consideration of this subject in isolation from the other issues with claims on the resources and attention of America's military. The United States can't easily slow down the growth of Chinese military capacity, but its response to that growth is inevitably affected by its preoccupation with wars in Southwest Asia. It is peculiar to see former officials of the administration responsible for starting these wars counseling the Obama administration against neglecting important priorities like the one discussed here.
Mischaracterization by Anthony Donaldson
Son of Donald, the Politboro of Beijing can't stand or accept the loss of power and control of money they and their many other comrades would suffer if democracy were to occur on the mainland.
Any Chinese anywhere having democracy, such as on Taiwan, is a mortal direct threat and immediate danger to CPC power and control over the mainland Chinese.
You support the Politboro in Beijing. You are the same as the Politboro in Beijing, i.e.,dead wrong and a nasty censoring and dictatorship control freak.
I would like to think you and your comrades could change your ways and mangled thoughts, but my experience leaves me less than optimistic about both you and your comrades.
Sorry 'bout that, but reality is reality.
Democracy is an excuse for lack of development
No one is afraid of democracy. Lately, Hong Kong has finally passed and endorsed by Beijing of revision to the consititution: to have eventual election of its CEO (something like a governor of States) in the Special Region. Who is afraid of democracy? As for Taiwan, real democracy only took root in the last 20 years. Before that, the Chinese on mainland had rejected fake democracy and welcome socialist. However, the late former premier Zhou and Deng saw that the whole system needs changes is the only way to promote development. They also believe democracy is not the only way to development and they are right. Look at the results and compare to democracies like Phillipines, Pakistan, India, Iran, and Indonesia. Democracies had started when they got independance and they have not surpass China. If democracies as an only means to development for the poors in the country and military strength, it is not very successful in comparison.
The impending 12th -Five years development planing for the country has included, among other things, justice and fareness as part of the development. It may lead to some system of government no one has envisioned.
Are all democracy goods? Then consider the Greek system of proportional representation. Democracy is not for everyone at whatever cost it will take. It has to be evolved like the UK for few hundred years. But that is too long for the Chinese. The Chinese on the mainland rejected the KMT because democracy is not working for the society. The new evolving socialist system is the fastest route and the Soviet system proved the old system leaded to collapse.
The CPC/PRC vehemently opposed the successful referendum initiated by democrats of Hong Kong to institute in law universal suffrage.
Your attempts Bill888 to advocate dictatorship always fail and they fail miserably. The recently approved universal suffrage referendum in Hong Kong is another instance. You grossly misrepresent the referendum, the events central to it and its consequences.
Universal suffrage will abolish the Beijing system of Beijing's appointing the vast majority of officials who govern HKG and of Beijing's severely limiting the number of members who can be elected to the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Legislative Council (Legco).
The consequence of the successful referendum mean the days of Beijing significantly controlling the Chief Executive of HKG also are numbered by the adoption of universal suffrage by the voters of HKG. Beijing lost its intensely and forcefully fought battle against the universal suffrage referendum of several months ago. Beijing finally signed the enacted universal suffrage document almost in the same way as the British signed the Treaty of Paris with the United States in 1783.
In Beijing, Taiwan isn't even a Special Administrative Region - it's officially Beijing's 23rd province, which of course is a matter of some dispute in Taiwan and, consequently, elsewhere in the world. It doesn't take much to know what Beijing would happily and quickly do with a province such as Taiwan that it's finding out it can't do with a SAR such as Hong Kong.
Beijing and Taipei are connecting extensively in economics, trade, culture and finance, which is good for everyone, but politically the matter is quite to the opposite. We hope Beijing doesn't misread the tea leaves the way Krushchev and Castro did in 1962.
Bill888, as I Publicus read your posts at the various FP topics, I see the superstitious Chinese belief that the number 8 is a lucky number certainly is belied by you.
The only saving grace to your absolute and unvarying opposition to democracy and your promoting the Beijing Party line of censoring dictatorship is that you often use your own words to express the line. Which also means a pamphleteer like you would never make it to the Politboro. (Or could you?)
Hey CPC Politboro, look at the map of the USA so you can know to suck my Florida.
China is secretly preparing itself for a war against India. It wants to rule roost in Asia and this dream is not possible until India is there. U.S. must help India to maintain a power balance in South Asia.
Pure Hoodia
China is not secretly preparing war with India...
China is not preparing war with just India. Chinese army is openly preparing war with anyone who invades China. That is the main duty of the army, besides other emergency callings.
Who is going to invade China?
India? Russia? Taiwan? Vietnam? Japan? The Philippines? Germany? Israel?
The CPC keeps a large standing army to hold together its internal empire and to maintain its domestic dictatorship. Remember Tianaman Square? The US still has sanctions in place against the CPC/PRC for that ruthless massacre of Chinese youth and the people of Beijing.
That's your People's Liberation Army.
We can't even beat the rag tag taliban in afghanistan and we are supposed to take on a much larger, stronger, sophisticated Chinese military?? are u kidding me? we'll probably go to war with iran soon, and we'd be lucky if we can get out of that war alive and in one piece. seriously, the american cowboy mentality needs to end. we have gone boke fighting wars in iraq and afghaistan and all it has done is make countries like pakistan, iran, tukey even stronger. China pretty much owns us economically and now here we are talking about military conflicts with them. its no wonder all the smart people come from china, india, and other places. america is filled with war loving morons and idiots.
Everyone in the United States comes from every continent of the world. In 2007 it became so for the past 400 years (Jamestown, 1607).
The educated and monied Chinese, Indians, Thais and others of similar socioeconomics are 21st century latecomers to a society and economy that already is advanced and sophisticated. Many of these newcomer immigrants were educated in their own countries by Western and United States philosophies of education, methods, predicates.
Your rant not withstanding.
Publicus: Please don't insult the Native India in America
I hope you are not insulting the Native Indian who are in America before pre-historic time. I don't think you can say they are immigrant too; otherwise, everyone is an immigrant from Africa.
Pretty lame and conventional commentary on Blumenthal’s article. PUBLICUS in particular seems in a state of hysteria. TYRTAIOS’s is the only comment that seems to contain a genuine kernel of truth.
So I'd guess you're a busy person who yourself hasn't time (or interest) to state anything of substance in respect to the topic or discussion. Perhaps we'll have to read everything TYRIAIOS writes to figure your panorama of thoughts on various topics as best we can - supposing of course we may care what you might think.
In my opinion - China will eventually re-acquire Tiawan with never firing a shot! Maybe in 50 years. China is very patient and can wait for things to slowly improve. As said above- look athe amount of cooperation and trade between the two as an example.
If it came to a shooting was between China and Tiawan - I don't feel the US would intervent militarily - treaty or not. We'd get blown out of the water being so far from of homeland and bases. Not to mention Japan would never allow the access needed to our bases there. Now we're having to move even more forces from Japan to Guam - even farther away.
This repeated and cliched claim that the CPC/PRC will win, accomplish or even "re-acquire" (fill in the blank) "without ever firing a shot" is as tiresome and tedious as are other cliches.
The CPC/PRC seized Tibet and retains control of Tibet only by firing barrages of shots, always and without fail into civilians protesting in the streets. The Turkic speaking conquered people of the now PRC western province of Xinjiang have been killed and mamed by volley after volley of CPC/PRC shots - and, yes again, I'm talking about civilians being shot while protesting in the streets. Then there were the Chinese themselves in Tianamen who took a multiplicity of shots, and whose families were billed by the CPC/PRC government and had to pay the CPC/PRC for the cost of the bullets that shot and killed their protesting offspring. These are but some instances of Beijing firing shots, lots of shots, and always every so bravely into unarmed civilians protesting in public places.
"Without ever firing a shot!"
Your failed mentality slays me.
Leaving aside the patriotic blindness expressed in this article
and the blindness to the changing relationship between Taiwan and China, the US faces a big problem with it's aircraft carriers and the battlegroups that are there to act as a shield.
That is that the two nations it would most likely need to use them to threaten are pursuing radically different approaches in the weapons systems they are designing to threaten them back with.
China is going with the sniper approach (those supersonic missiles designed to be effective in one or two shots) and Iran is going with the shotgun approach (missiles designed to be effective when fired in mass waves) and any defence system designed to deal with the one would be pretty useless against the other.
As for the intimidation factor that an aircraft carrier adds being degraded by air defence systems that can knock the sky clean of planes, and drones that can buzz these ships without the risk of the embarassment of the pilot having to be rescued by the very people he was there to intimidate, and those carrier battlegroups seem likely to go the way of the seige engine.
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Publicus: Tibet - He who accuses should come with clean hands
I have to congratulate you that you know something about Hong Kong and China. That is amazing for an Indian. I am going to answer some of your questions posted above.
1.) Of all the people in the world, you (East Indian) have no right to talk to China about Tibet and, in particular, about the liberation of Tibet. Forgive me, I am not being arrogant toward any particular racial group. Then why? Remember the common law motto: HE WHO COMES TO ACCUSE SHOULD COME WITH CLEAN HANDS. There was a long history of involvement between the Tibetan and the Han Chinese. In Tang Dynasty ( about 1500 years ago ), a Han princess married the King of Tibet ( no Dalai Lama at then). Ever since, there was much cultural exchange between the two groups. And at about 400 years ago, Tibet was conquered by the Mongolian Khan who had invaded the new Qing Dynasty of Manchurian people and Han. Then the powerful Emperor of Qing led a campaign against the Mongolian Khan and killed the Khan. As a result, the Emperor had made a widower of his daughter who had married the Mongolian Khan. Then Tibet and Mongolian became part of Qing Dynasty with autonomous rule. So in fact, China had inherited Tibet from the Qing Dynasty. Then during the period when Qing Dynasty was weak, the British and Russia tried to split Tibet from Qing control. All the British maneverings were rejected by the Qing government. Then the British banded together with some small group of separatist and unilaterally sign an accord to annex Tibet, but repudiated by Qing government. Without success, the British India then unilaterally demarcated and stole the South Tibet ( a large piece of land close to Burma) to be part of British Colony. This was also not agreed by the Qing Dynasty. And at during the beginning of New China, CIA was operating in Tibet to split Tibet from China. Then China sent its Tibet to free Tibet from CIA and also to disband the slavery system.
How can Indian claims China invaded Tibet when in fact they stole and annexed part of Tibet. They split the home land of Dalai Lama. And who said that they can inherit from the British. And did India allowed South Tibet to hold a referendum to decide their own faith? The answers are no. South Tibet had been forced to be part of their Arunachal Pradesh. Why forced? South Tibetan doesn’t speak Indo-European like Punjabi, Hindi or Urdu. South Tibet speaks the Tibetan language. South Tibetan doesn’t look like South Asian. They have oriental look, like Mongolian and Chinese. South Tibet doesn’t eat curry or South Asian food as their traditional way of cooking. South Tibetan doesn’t leave their deads in the river like the India. They have sky burial. South Tibetan's religion is Buddhism, which was discarded by India long time ago. (Only 1.5% of Indian is Buddhist). There are many more differences which can be named.
What did the Indian government do for South Tibet? They made this region a restricted area because they are afraid people find out the differences. For all the people who want to go their, even Dalai Lama needs approval. Dalai Lama cannot just go home to the city of Tawang in a Democratic country. The previous Dalai Lama was born in Tawang.
So, how can you accuse the Chinese of invasion into Tibet when India stole and forcibly annexed South Tibet?
2.) You mentioned about universal suffrage in Hong Kong and that China is afraid of democracy in Hong Kong. I am not sure if you have read the Basic Law of Hong Kong (the mini constitution of Hong Kong). The Basic Law is already a big leap from the past colonial government's way of governance. For the colonial government, the governor was appointed by the British government alone without consultation with Hong Kong's residents. The new Basic law allows the selection of Chief Executive (the head of government) based on a proportional representatives method. Also, the legislative assembly was voted to take office by the general public and functional constituents. So, according to the Basic Law, Hong Kong is already enjoying highly autonomous self rule as a Special Administrative Region, except for defense, foreign affairs, and diplomatic relations. Also, the Basic Law allows the method of election of the Chief Executive and legislators to be changed in a "gradual manner". This change can be brought about with the agreement of 75% of the legislators. All these are written clearly in the Basic Law. The Special Administrative Region is already enjoying a high degree of self autonomous rule, then why would you still claim the Central government is afraid? Also, it is always understood that total universal suffrage is allowed but should be brought about gradually. How can you say Beijing is afraid when they already envision such an event? However, what the Democrat wants is not to follow the rule of law as stated on the Basic Law of gradual change, but to change instantly at the next term. Most legislators and the people disagreed and did not support their Bill. Anyway, I do not see how you can claim: Beijing is afraid of democracy when they already know Hong Kong will have universal suffrage and Beijing allowed Hong Kong to have it.
No one has tried to bring about a referendum about the changing of the Basic Law. I don't know how you get this one. Also, Beijing never appointed any officials. The role of Beijing is to endorse the Executive Officers of Hong Kong governments. (Something like what UK's Queen or India's President do.)
3.) You ridicule my pen name Bill888 to be superstitious. I cam tell you I am not superstitious. The name Bill in this web is already taken by someone else and the easiest to remember is 888 rather than 354. So don't be too judgmental.
At the request of the CPC of the PRC, the International Olympic Committee agreed that the 2008 Summer Olympiad in Beijing, scheduled to begin early in August - the 8th month of the year - would begin on the 8th day of August. No problem.
By the ages old Chinese system of dating, that's 2008-8-8 or August 8, 2008. This was the specific request of Beijing, the 8th day aspect of August, 2008. Who would dispute that for millennia in China the number 8 has been (and continues to be) considered a 'lucky' number? It remains so even under the "scientific" anti-superstition and Marxist rule of the CPC.
Under similar systems of superstitious beliefs in the West, 7 and/or 11 have been considered 'lucky' numbers while 13 used to be considered the horror of all horrors unlucky number. (Youknow, stay in bed all day on a Friday the 13th, so we also have a day of the week thrown in to Old World superstitions East or West, not to mention a whole bunch of tasteless movies of the title day and date.)
That's quite the coincidence there CPC-Bill888.
You inspire me because now I think I might become Publicus666.
Bill888 your post of September 11th is straight Beijing Party Line. All that you recite in your Item #1 is taught in the CPC/PRC schools and can be found in the regular lectures on the 44 channel same-same CCTV of the mainland. Accordingly, if I want a recitation, I'll ask for one but I can say to you that I don't like wasting my time (reading your Straight Party Line).
Contrary to your erroneous assertions, I haven't any (known) Indian nationality, ancestry or affiliation. I've never been to India. You are wrong: I'm not Indian.
I am a democrat.
As to Hong Kong, Beijing vehemently opposed universal suffrage in the HKSAR. Beijing lost and lost decisively. No papering over the defeat by you or Beijing will change the fact that Beijing recently took serious gas on the issue of universal suffrage in HKG. The happy consequence is that going forward Hong Kong will have far greater democracy in contrast to the not so subtle erosion of the extant limited democracy Beijing imposed on HKG when Beijing wrote the Basic Law document of HKG.
The people of HKG initiated universal suffrage earlier this year directly because of the rapid rape of democracy that Beijing was already systematically carrying out. Beijing had thrown out the window its pledge not to change anything in HKG for the first 50 years after the reversion of HKG to mainland sovereignty.
Beijing's still chewing dust on this one.
The CPC/PRC fascists in Beijing will lose
One eye on China, India opens up to Japan, Korea
Jyoti Malhotra / New Delhi September 3, 2010, 0:35 IST
As it grapples with the growing influence of China, India is learning to reinvent its friendships with Japan and South Korea and position itself as a democratic counterpoise in the wider south-east Asian community.
But even as Prime Minister Manmohan Singh plans to visit Tokyo for his annual summit from October 25-27 — as part of a journey to Hanoi and Kuala Lumpur — and hopes to sign a landmark civil nuclear pact with his counterpart, Naoto Kan, Japanese resentment against India’s nuclear ambitions continues to simmer.
It has now come to light that India’s ambassador to Japan, H K Singh, did not attend the anti-nuclear ceremonies at Hiroshima and Nagasaki this year, despite the fact that UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon flew in from New York to attend. The ambassadors of the US, Britain and France, all victors in the Second World War, were present.
Along with Singh, conspicuous by his absence at the ceremonies was China’s ambassador to Japan.
Considering India refused to retaliate when Japan cancelled its annual $1-billion Official Development Assistance when New Delhi went nuclear in 1998, instead saying it understood Tokyo’s actions as the “only country in the world to have been the victim of a nuclear bomb,” its current insensitivity towards the victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki seem particularly out of place.
This also comes at a time when New Delhi’s stakes in Tokyo are rising exponentially every year. Besides the civil nuclear pact, both sides hope to finally sign an Economic Partnership Agreement, for which Commerce Secretary Rahul Khullar will undertake final discussions during his visit to Japan from September 7-9.
As it seeks to counter a rising China, India hopes to cement a sluggish friendship with Seoul, and is sending Defence Minister A K Antony to South Korea on September 1. This will be the first-ever visit by an Indian defence minister to that country and he is expected to sign a wide-ranging memorandum of understanding on defence cooperation.
The PM will also travel to Seoul for the G-20 visit in November, when the grouping is expected to announce India’s enhanced stakes in global financial organisations, such as the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.
On its part, ministry officials say, India is “diplomatically courting” the wider region. About a month ago, Foreign Secretary
Nirupama Rao took a meeting of all India’s ambassadors and high commissioners in South Asia in Yangon, the former capital of Myanmar.
Present at the meeting were also the ambassadors of China and Japan, and as planned, China’s burgeoning influence in South Asia was one of the chief topics of discussion.
The venue for the meeting — a country where India and China are competing for both economic resources, especially oil and gas, as well as political influence — is direct proof, if any was needed, that New Delhi believes that South-East Asia has become the “newest battle-ground of ideas” with its main rival, China.
Clearly, India seems to be taking several leaves out of China’s success stories in the region, but none are more important than the use of economics to pursue diplomatic intent. The India-Japan economic partnership agreement (EPA), for example, comes in the wake of a free trade agreement between India and South Korea signed this January, and is expected to push currently lowly annual trade at $10.4 billion.
Sino-Indian trade already touches $60 billion, even though the trade basket is heavily weighted in favour of raw materials, such as iron ore, from India.
The EPA has overcome a major sticking point in the manufacture and sale of pharma drugs and agreed to trade in goods — as many as 9,000 products, from steel and apparel to machinery — but it is an agreement on trade in services that remains to be resolved.
Accounting for about 55 per cent of the gross domestic product, exports from India’s services sector were valued at $93.7 billion in 2009-10.
Still, as Japanese Foreign Minister Katsuya Okada publicly concurred with External Affairs Minister S M Krishna during his recent India visit, the decision to reinvent the G-4 bid for permanent membership of an expanded Security Council could at least bring both establishments — along with Germany and Brazil — closer together.
India will likely be elected as a non-permanent member of the Security Council in 2011 from the Asia seat, but it is keen to revive the G-4 debate that was pushed into the background these last years as a result of the blooming Indo-US camaraderie over their nuclear deal.
China, of course, was a major opponent of that nuclear deal even though it fell in line at the bitter end — meanwhile, memories of Jawaharlal Nehru turning down a US invitation in 1954 to become a permanent SC member, and suggesting that India’s “brotherly neighbour” China be given the seat, are being dredged up again these days in New Delhi.
India is also hoping that when US President Barack Obama visits in November, he will openly voice his support for an Indian seat at the Security Council high table.
Meanwhile, in New Delhi recently, Okada and Krishna also agreed that India and Japan would work much more closely in Africa, so as to jointly push the continent’s 53 nations to vote in favour of the G-4 idea in the General Assembly.
No prizes for guessing which Asian nation is topmost in Africa’s consciousness these days — China.
Countering and checking the CPC/PRC
India, Germany, Brazil, Japan, South Korea, NATO and the United States are uniting to form a democratic alliance to counter the CPC/PRC at the United Nations and, in particular, in Africa.
You can expect this effort to produce successful results by 2011 - that's next year.
Fascism cannot win in the world. It never has and it never will because it is inemical to human nature. The CPC/PRC as a censoring fascist dictatorship is a reactionary force in the modern world, opposed to self-determination and democracy, liberty, the values of the European Enlightenment that have defined the world since the 15th century.
The tide of history runs against the fascists everywhere, the CPC/PRC in particular. You just can't win, whether by economics or by your planned and intended nuclear means.
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