Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 4:57 PM
By Christian Brose
Well, what to say about Hillary Clinton's confirmation hearing? When Senator Kerry Freudian-ly slipped at the outset and referred to her as "Secretary Clinton," we pretty much knew what we were in for. The senators' kid gloves never came off. The excessive, effusive praise flowed both ways. And the discussion spent a surprising amount of time on State Department inside baseball -- management, budgets, the lines between boxes on the organizational chart. This is surely fine, and I for one hope that Clinton and Obama truly do succeed in making the State Department a more capable partner to the Pentagon.
Still, to echo some of Dov's take, Clinton's performance was masterful. Her knowledge of the issues was real and deep. And it was hard not to appreciate how easy she made the whole thing look, as only a consummate politician such as herself can -- stroking her former colleagues' egos, flattering their pride, dodging the few hard questions they asked, and not giving an inch when a Vitter or a Lugar pushed her a bit. I don't know if this is a good indication of how well we can expect her to handle a Putin or a Mubarak, let alone an Assad or -- exactly who in Iran? But Clinton passed her own 3 AM phone call test.
From a policy standpoint, one thing that struck me was an early exchange she had with Sen. Kerry on Iran. Kerry, consciously or not, was definitely channeling Steve Biegun's question # 2 from Monday when he asked:
Is it the policy of the incoming administration, as a bottom line of our security interests and our policy, that it is unacceptable that Iran has a weapon under any circumstances and that we will take any steps necessary to prevent that? Or is it simply not desirable?
Here's Clinton's answer:
The president-elect has said repeatedly it is unacceptable. It is going to be United States policy to pursue diplomacy with all of its multitudinous tools to do everything we can to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear weapons state. As I also said, no option is off the table.
So the goal, as I understand it, won't change from Bush: an Iranian nuke is unacceptable. And the contours of the strategy she described to pursue it are essentially none too different either. As we read over the weekend, the Bush administration was not hellbent on bombing Iran or having it done for them. Which should only reinforce what the second term policy really was: diplomacy. This is not a synonym for talking. It's a mixture of incentives (economic, technological, engagement, etc.) and disincentives (sanctions, pressure, isolation, etc.) to get Iran to change its behavior. This is essentially what Clinton described the Obama administration's policy will be:
[O]ur goal will be to do everything we can to pursue, through diplomacy, through the use of sanctions, through creating better coalitions with countries that we believe also have a big stake in preventing Iran from becoming a nuclear weapon power, to try to prevent this from occurring.
What one can expect to be different is how many and what kind of sticks and carrots the Obama administration will put forward -- and whether it will work any better than Bush's policy, which ... well, isn't. On that question, when Kerry asked her whether diplomacy backed by pressure would be sufficient to change Iran's behavior, Clinton's response was interesting:
You know, it's kind of like the experimenter's bias, in a way. We won't know what we're capable of achieving until we're actually there working on it.
Now, on its face, this looks like a dodge, and maybe it was intended to be. But there's a kernel of truth in that statement, I think. Countries follow their interests, no big surprise there. But how they define those interests is always subject to change. This is especially the case with two countries like the United States and Iran, which have had no relationship whatsoever for three decades. We have little idea how Iran precisely defines its national interest with regard to its nuclear portfolio, and my guess is, Iran isn't sure either.
In fact, and this is what I take Clinton's point to be: I don't think the United States knows exactly what we would be willing to accept in terms of changed Iranian behavior, were it possible, until we actually start kicking the tires a bit and seeing what's there. Until we actually force Iran to make decisions that it perhaps hasn't yet made, to resolve debates that it seems only to be deferring, and compel Iran to react to us by putting the ball more firmly in their court, we won't have a clear sense of what changes in Iranian policy are possible, and whether we'd be prepared to live with them.
Iran at this moment appears dead set on crossing the nuclear threshold, and perhaps they are. But maybe their calculation of their interests would change in response to new incentives -- not only jaw-jaw, and hand holding, and sweet cooing from our coalition partners, but also greater pressure than the Bush administration was able to bring to bear to show Iran that, if they keep walking down the nuclear path, life is going to get a whole lot worse for them.
It may not be comforting that our incoming secretary of state chooses the metaphor of "experimentation" to describe one of the biggest national security challenges we have. But if you have to choose one, that's not bad. Diplomacy is the art of the possible, and with Iran right now, who knows what's possible?
The real concern is that, at the end of the day, nothing is possible. Maybe Iran is committed to getting the bomb, full stop. Maybe its leaders will subject their nation to any hardship in order to get it. And then we'd be faced with the same bad choice that Bush tried not to be left with, and that Obama will too: Do you acquiesce to Iran getting the bomb -- or do you bomb Iran to stop them?
Maybe Clinton's search for a third way between these bad options will be more successful than her predecessor's. But maybe it won't. One way or the other, this question will be answered in Obama's first term. There's no avoiding it.
Where does the USA derive the authority, in any respect, to deny Iran nuclear weapons?
The USA has more nuclear weapons than any other nation; and Israel, India, and Pakistan, three USA allies possess nuclear weapons, and none are signatory to international conventions.
Given the USA unprovoked invasion of Iraq, if I was in charge in Iran I'd be feverishly seeking development of nuclear weapons.
"...if I was in charge of Iran..."
I don't think many rational observers would deny that Iran has incentives (or to use a more subjective term, legitimate reasons) to advance its nuclear program. So what?
From where does the IRI derive the authority to interfere in the internal affairs of Lebanon? From where does any government derive the authority to embargo another state, or to enforce export controls?
The US government need not "derive the authority" from anywhere. The fundamental imperative of a government is to protect its people; if the leadership of this country determines that an emphasis on nonproliferation is the best way to do this, it need not concern itself with "authority."
The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must - as ever.
C
"From where does the IRI derive the authority to interfere in the internal affairs of Lebanon?"
That question applies to the US as well. And what did young Pierre Gemayel say? "They have the quantity but we have the quality."
Such friends.
"From where does any government derive the authority to embargo another state, or to enforce export controls?"
There are so many ways to respond I had to think a bit to come up with something snappy:
Well, I guess Gaza isn't a country is it?.
...(I had hoped would be obvious) are rhetorical. States need not derive authority for international action from anywhere. Of course, pragmatism demands that states won't always do what they wish when they wish, without reservation.
Successive US administrations have determined that nonproliferation (and specifically the denial of nuclear technology to Iran) is a security imperative; this determination may be incorrect, but it's senseless to talk about rights.
"but it's senseless to talk about rights"
An attitude which explains why the USA is hated by much of the world. Might does not make right.
If you're looking for justice...
...in the conduct of one state to another, you'll be looking for a long time.
"Might does not make right," you say. Mine is "an attitude which explain why the US is hated by much of the world," I'm told. Only I haven't shared any attitudes or opinions with you, nor have I written anything nationalist or explicitly pro-American. So what are you on about?
You're correct to say that might does not make right in any moral sense, even in conduct among nations. But what is "morality" to a state? The most responsible, mature governments recognize their responsibility to safeguard the lives and interests of their people -- this is their fundamental imperative. You can quibble with the means chosen to accomplish this end, but it's a simple reality of international affairs. It is reprehensible -- patently immoral -- for a state to subordinate the safety of its own populace to some presumed sense of "justice" or "fairness" to the rights of another state.
I didn't even finish reading the comment,
I'd be very happy if the US stopped lying in its use of the language of rights, but unfortunately there are blogs devoted to that pretense, labeled as discussions of public diplomacy. And it's hard to tell id the authors believe their own hype or not.
But you've given me an opportunity, so I may as well take it:
Sooner or later people should begin to consider that democracy is preferable not because its more moral than other forms of government but because its more stable. The rule of law is preferable because laws founded on agreement if enforced evenly and simply build trust. And trust is the goal. The idealism of law as some form of Aristotelian logic is absurd. But realism should be the understanding that most people are stupid, not the defense of stupidity. And the American FP leadership's response to Iran is stupid.
So the First Strike option is always on the table.
The extremists in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Israel are far more of the threat to all concerned than the self-interested realists in Tehran. And the Iranian people are far more interested in political modernization and reform.
The intellectual vulgarity of American political intellectuals never ceases to amaze me. On Iran, here's Elaine Sciolino schooling a spook, Robert Baer like a woman -and a Parisian- with a boy, and reviewing and debating Azar Nafisi.
Also in the Times: a chat with Abbas Kiarostami (being interviewed by an idiot).
If I were to divide the world into "us" and "them" I wouldn't divide it between expert and amateur or home and away but between the curious and the incurious (the cowardly). I'm not an internationalist simply out of preference but because it helps to guard me against iidées fixes.
They're dangerous.
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